IRC logs for #aegir, 2017-06-01 (GMT)

2017-05-31
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[13:15:15]<g33kg1rl>Hi there anyone have any experience with 405 errors on POST using ipv6 (iphone on data connection)?
[13:15:15]<hefring>g33kg1rl: 1 month 2 weeks ago <colan> tell g33kg1rl you may want to try the up-to-date docs instead: http://docs.aegirproject.org/en/3.x/extend/altering-behaviours/#injectin...
[13:15:51]<g33kg1rl>On nginx
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[00:09:15]<helmo42[m]>Hi all, I can't make it tonight, but here are a few things I've been working on....
[00:09:24]<helmo42[m]>The release 3.11 seems to be a success, I've upgrade several live servers :)
[00:10:36]<helmo42[m]>I've closed a number of old(ssl related issues) pointing them to hosting_https.
[00:11:16]<helmo42[m]>With the announced release date of Debian stretch I think it's time we focus on https://www.drupal.org/node/2857259 ... I'll try to find some time for it
[00:11:17]<hefring>https://www.drupal.org/node/2857259 => [meta] Debian 9 - Stretch support [#2857259] => 3 comments, 2 IRC mentions
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[00:46:43]<jonpugh>awesome, helmo42[m]
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[02:09:14]<jonpugh[m]>colan: ergonlogic: helmo42: Any idea why the LE --accept-terms wouldn't be properly detected by hosting_https? https://gitlab.com/aegir/hosting_https/issues/31
[02:10:40]<jonpugh[m]>well I just figured it out myself :)
[02:11:39]<jonpugh[m]>but I think the script to register and accept terms might be broken...
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[06:42:03]<colan[m]>ergonlogic: what was that service you mentioned for automatically restarting services like hosting-queued if they fail?
[06:42:34]<colan[m]>er, app that monitors and restarts. maybe then it won't be necessary to switch to skynet.
[06:52:13]<colan[m]>Are there other reasons to switch to skynet?
[06:57:03]<ergonlogic[m]>colan: supervisord?
[06:57:34]<colan[m]>ergonlogic: Looks like monit might be better. Thoughts?
[06:57:45]<ergonlogic[m]>the main reason to switch to skynet, imo, if that it's written in Python, which is 10000% better than PHP for daemons
[06:57:55]<ergonlogic[m]>it's mostly irrelevant
[06:58:00]<ergonlogic[m]>it never crashes
[06:58:31]<ergonlogic[m]>it'd probably be better to just ship with a systemd conf
[06:59:32]<ergonlogic[m]>2 things make PHP bad for daemons, that I've seen directly negatively impact the queued: (1) memory leaks (2) no recycling of file descriptors
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[06:59:46]<ergonlogic[m]>the latter is the main problem
[07:00:17]<colan[m]>is it practically better, or only from a programmer's perspective? As in, is it really worth my time to start figuring out skynet, or would monit/supervisor suffice?
[07:00:20]<colan[m]>ah, okay.
[07:00:27]<colan[m]>leakage is bad.
[07:00:43]<ergonlogic[m]>also, since it isn't bootstrapping drush, it's immune to PHP errors if something's funky with some randopm module, or whatever
[07:01:04]<colan[m]>yeah, that's annoying.
[07:01:12]<ergonlogic[m]>hosting_queued suffers from PHP
[07:01:17]<colan[m]>okay, i'm convinced. :)
[07:01:21]<ergonlogic[m]>there's no good way around it
[07:01:41]<ergonlogic[m]>except to use a language that's better for daemons
[07:01:50]<ergonlogic[m]>fwiw, it's super simple
[07:02:02]<ergonlogic[m]>and I wrote an Ansible script to deploy it
[07:02:06]<colan[m]>and 10000% better is quite a lot. :D
[07:02:17]<ergonlogic[m]>yes, yes it is :p
[07:02:38]<ergonlogic[m]>it's really not an exageration, either
[07:02:57]<colan[m]>not sure what would be involved with shipping a systemd file in the debian package, but that sounds fantastic.
[07:03:09]<ergonlogic[m]>if you look at the hosting_queued code, about 80% is just concerned with regularly restarting itself to try and mitigate the problems I listed above
[07:03:22]<colan[m]>I'm still happy with that vs. ansible.
[07:03:27]<colan[m]>Ha! Okay.
[07:03:58]<colan[m]>So, basically, it's deadweight we've been lugging around.
[07:04:36]<colan[m]>Will put some time into figuring it out then.
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[07:05:56]<ergonlogic[m]>http://cgit.drupalcode.org/hosting/tree/queued/hosting_queued.conf
[07:06:27]<ergonlogic[m]>iirc, that ^^^ is the systemd conf we ship with hosting_queued
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[09:00:49]<gusaus>https://www.drupal.org/node/2164579#comment-12112447
[09:00:50]<hefring>https://www.drupal.org/node/2164579 => Funding - Sustaining Aegir development [#2164579] => 31 comments, 3 IRC mentions
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