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| [01:36:02] | <colan> | ergonlogic: want me to create an account for you on my site so you can do it, or should i just repost as me? |
| [01:36:27] | <ergonlogic[m]> | go ahead and re-post |
| [01:36:30] | <colan> | ok |
| [01:36:47] | <ergonlogic[m]> | also, helmo created: https://gitlab.com/aegir/www.aegirproject.org/issues/10 |
| [01:37:05] | <ergonlogic[m]> | we pretty much just need a 2nd post |
| [01:37:19] | <ergonlogic[m]> | so, I'll start drafting one about Aegir 5 |
| [01:38:08] | <colan> | ergonlogic: yeah, was thinking of that, but we'd need 3 posts on there. i could republish mine, maybe stephen's too? would make 3, or 4 with your NG one. |
| [01:38:42] | <ergonlogic[m]> | The Planet req's state a minimum of 2 posts |
| [01:39:01] | <colan> | oh, they must have reduced it. was 3 for me. |
| [01:39:10] | <ergonlogic[m]> | yeah, I recall that too |
| [01:40:07] | <ergonlogic[m]> | being statically generated, the site doesn't support comments natively. Should we consider something like Disqus? |
| [01:40:54] | <colan> | ergonlogic: might want to save the aegirng post so it'll actually get on planet. so use one of our other ones to get on there? |
| [01:41:06] | <sensespidey[m]> | where's the listing of external blog posts re: aegir turning 10, atm? |
| [01:41:06] | <colan> | if that's doable, makes sense. |
| [01:41:27] | <ergonlogic[m]> | just in my post from yesterday, afaik |
| [01:41:34] | <sensespidey[m]> | oh wait, sorry- i see it at the top of the blog post on aegirproject.org |
| [01:41:42] | <ergonlogic[m]> | right |
| [01:41:42] | <sensespidey[m]> | and you've captured the one i saw in my news feed last night (computerminds) |
| [01:42:04] | <ergonlogic[m]> | colan: good point |
| [01:42:21] | <colan> | so repost mine & i'll repost yours? |
| [01:42:37] | <ergonlogic[m]> | sure |
| [01:42:58] | <colan> | stephen's too would be good - so it looks like we have content, if he's okay with it. |
| [01:43:15] | <ergonlogic[m]> | colan: you know... it's super easy to add a post in hugo :p |
| [01:43:48] | <ergonlogic[m]> | I'll add it, for expediency, then post the diff, to illustrate |
| [02:10:10] | <colan> | ergonlogic: ok, thanks. i can jump into that stuff a bit later. |
| [02:10:30] | <colan> | https://colan.consulting/blog/%C3%A6gir-turns-10 |
| [02:11:51] | <ergonlogic[m]> | https://www.aegirproject.org/blog/aegir_your_open_source_hosting_platfor... |
| [02:12:36] | <ergonlogic[m]> | https://gitlab.com/aegir/www.aegirproject.org/commit/dc203c066f68bee3bcd... |
| [02:13:37] | <ergonlogic[m]> | colan: thanks |
| [02:18:01] | <colan> | https://twitter.com/Dries/status/939125585875492864 |
| [02:19:02] | <ergonlogic[m]> | I guess it's appropriate that the image is of a Canadian comedian/actor... |
| [02:19:30] | <ergonlogic[m]> | Also, I guess Dries is following you |
| [02:20:03] | <colan> | ergonlogic: no, mvc let me know about it; i'm not on that app. |
| [02:20:22] | <ergonlogic[m]> | I guess he read Planet then :) |
| [02:22:17] | <colan> | indeed. |
| [02:26:00] | <ergonlogic[m]> | I renamed our blog section to "Aegir Dispatch (blog)" |
| [02:26:20] | <ergonlogic[m]> | because, you know... puns |
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| [02:28:39] | <helmo42[m]> | ergonlogic: Just watched the full video from your blog, very nice. |
| [02:37:07] | <ergonlogic[m]> | helmo42: thanks... a bit long, but I guess that's fair for 10 years of code contributions |
| [02:37:52] | <ergonlogic[m]> | I submitted an issue to add our blog to Planet, btw |
| [02:58:20] | <ergonlogic[m]> | helmo42: Say, I played around with the settings on our open-collective. Among other things, I bumped up the amounts significantly. I tried adding more tiers, but it didn't work as expected. Anyway, I'd like to see if we can get some substantial ngo/gov/corp sponsorship |
| [02:58:49] | <ergonlogic[m]> | I figured there were lots of other ways for individuals to give smaller donations |
| [02:59:19] | <ergonlogic[m]> | but I'd like to reach out to the open-collective folks about adding additional monthly tiers at lower levels too |
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| [03:52:41] | <jonpugh1> | ergonlogic[m]: LOVE the blog name! |
| [03:52:55] | <jonpugh1> | the source video is awesome |
| [03:53:07] | <ergonlogic[m]> | thanks :) |
| [03:53:50] | <jonpugh1> | can the blog support code formatting? I'd like to write a detailed post on provision on symfony, PHP snippets are a must. |
| [03:54:31] | <ergonlogic[m]> | it shouldn't be hard to add |
| [03:54:49] | <ergonlogic[m]> | but I was focused on getting an MVP out for our deadline |
| [03:55:05] | <anarcat> | helmo42[m]: i haven't realized how much work you put into aegir since i left. congratulations on such an awesome involvement, it's impressive! |
| [03:55:28] | <ergonlogic[m]> | I think it's mostly a matter of installing a pyments lib, or something |
| [03:55:32] | <anarcat> | ergonlogic[m]: that video is amazing |
| [03:56:05] | <ergonlogic[m]> | thanks :) |
| [03:56:10] | <colan> | https://www.drupal.org/project/codefilter works on drupal sites, not sure about this hugo thing. |
| [03:56:41] | <anarcat> | wow the timeline |
| [03:56:45] | <ergonlogic[m]> | https://gohugo.io/content-management/syntax-highlighting/ |
| [03:58:31] | * anarcat wonders how aegir will deal with the containers bandwagon |
| [03:59:31] | <anarcat> | or drupal, for that matter |
| [04:00:27] | <ergonlogic[m]> | k8s backend for Aegir5 |
| [04:01:36] | <anarcat> | there may be a space for a k8s GUI |
| [04:01:43] | <anarcat> | there are some tools that do this here like kasten and rancher |
| [04:01:46] | <anarcat> | but it's in flux |
| [04:01:59] | <anarcat> | it definitely "fits" with aegir's goals i feel |
| [04:02:07] | <anarcat> | of easy maintenance and upgrades and deployment |
| [04:02:10] | <anarcat> | anyways |
| [04:02:15] | <anarcat> | gotta run to another talk |
| [04:02:30] | <anarcat> | last day! |
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| [04:25:12] | <ergonlogic[m]> | @freenode_jonpugh[m]:matrix.org: The GitLab CI image for Hugo is one version behind the one need for the new Chroma-based syntax highlighting. Instead we can use the Pygments-based one for now, which should be forward-compatible. I'm testing some config settings, after which I'll push those, and post an example here. |
| [05:14:40] | <ergonlogic[m]> | actually, it looks like the new Chroma-based highlighting is available after all. |
| [05:25:09] | <ergonlogic[m]> | @freenode_jonpugh[m]:matrix.org: turns out we get syntax highlighting for free out-of-the-box. Just wrap your code in `{{< highlight php >}}` and `{{< /highlight >}}` tags. |
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| [05:26:35] | <ergonlogic[m]> | it's a go function |
| [05:27:03] | <anarcat> | looks like hell |
| [05:27:04] | <anarcat> | :) |
| [05:27:48] | <ergonlogic[m]> | apparently we can use code fences too |
| [05:29:58] | <ergonlogic[m]> | ok, so with a minor change to our config, we can now just wrap code in `\`\`\`php` and a closing `\`\`\`` |
| [05:30:06] | <ergonlogic[m]> | nope, that's not right |
| [05:31:14] | <ergonlogic[m]> | how do you print 3 backticks? |
| [05:31:17] | <ergonlogic[m]> | ``` |
| [05:31:18] | <ergonlogic[m]> | ugh |
| [05:39:11] | <ergonlogic[m]> | `` ```php `` |
| [05:39:14] | <ergonlogic[m]> | there we go |
| [05:39:55] | <ergonlogic[m]> | anarcat: happy now? `` ```php `` and `` ``` `` also work for syntax highlighting |
| [05:40:35] | <ergonlogic[m]> | I guess the `php` is still a it of an issue :p |
| [05:40:43] | <ergonlogic[m]> | bit* |
| [06:32:03] | <anarcat> | happi*er* :) |
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| [08:04:09] | <ergonlogic[m]> | https://www.aegirproject.org/blog/re-positioning_aegir/ |
| [08:04:34] | * ergonlogic[m] would love feedback on ^^^ |
| [08:21:52] | <colan> | ergonlogic: will take a look. you sure you don't want to wait until we're on planet to publish that? |
| [08:22:17] | <colan> | unless it's easy to change the publish date... |
| [08:22:37] | <ergonlogic[m]> | Super easy |
| [08:23:28] | <colan> | great. let's remember to do that :) |
| [08:24:47] | <sensespidey[m]> | ergonlogic: nice post, i like the general direction you're pointing in, and that section of video you pointed to is great ;) |
| [08:25:22] | <ergonlogic[m]> | sensespidey: thanks |
| [08:26:36] | <sensespidey[m]> | just read through that architecture doc more thoroughly, too- looks really good. since i haven't actually used aegir recently, it's hard to tell how ambitious it is ;) |
| [08:26:36] | <ergonlogic[m]> | colan: that post is more targeted at current Aegir users and the core team, rather than prospective/new users |
| [08:27:20] | <colan> | i think it's great, in any case. |
| [08:27:25] | <ergonlogic[m]> | so I'm not sure Planet is all that critical |
| [08:28:04] | <colan> | linkedin? |
| [08:28:26] | <ergonlogic[m]> | Once we've agreed to call Aegir a "SaaS Delivery Framework" (or whatever), then we can start actually positioning it that way |
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| [08:28:42] | * colan nods |
| [08:29:32] | <jonpugh1> | It's a very difficult question to answer, how to position it. I like the term, and I agree that Aegir is a "SAAS Delivery Framework", but I think we are stuck in the same quandry as drupal itself: do we care more about SaaS Builders or Drupal site creators. This affects how we design user and development experience. |
| [08:30:19] | <jonpugh1> | "low-end Drupal site builders" and "HA SaaS provider" are two audiences that both get value out of aegir despite having vastly different backgrounds |
| [08:33:18] | <ergonlogic[m]> | I've been trying not to bake any such assumptions into Aegir 5. Hence a "framework" |
| [08:33:57] | <ergonlogic[m]> | I expect we'll see sub-distros (of maybe just sets of Features) that address more specific use-cases |
| [08:37:44] | <ergonlogic[m]> | Drupal is moving towards rich applications and are closer to SaaS than a traditional quasi-static "site" |
| [08:39:54] | <colan> | ergonlogic: i see that there's an IRC webchat link in the footer on the new site. would it be possible to add the link for this matrix room? https://riot.im/app/#/room/#drupal-aegir:matrix.org |
| [08:40:10] | <ergonlogic[m]> | sure |
| [08:40:35] | <ergonlogic[m]> | colan: poit m to a font-awesome icon to use for it, please |
| [08:40:38] | <ergonlogic[m]> | "point me"* |
| [08:42:33] | <colan> | ergonlogic: how about the one they're using at the bottom of https://about.riot.im/ - should be https://about.riot.im/wp-content/themes/riot/img/tiny-riot.svg ? |
| [08:43:05] | * colan doesn't know much about fonts (that's too front-endy) |
| [08:44:28] | <sensespidey[m]> | https://github.com/FortAwesome/Font-Awesome/issues/11270 |
| [08:46:05] | <ergonlogic[m]> | ok, let's all +1 that issue |
| [08:46:27] | <ergonlogic[m]> | I pushed an alternate "comment" icon for now |
| [08:48:36] | <ergonlogic[m]> | this one, btw: http://fontawesome.io/icon/comments-o/ |
| [08:49:09] | <ergonlogic[m]> | gitlab-ci is taking its time on this build though... |
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