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| [05:33:11] | <roycroft> | hello, folks |
| [05:33:25] | <roycroft> | i have an odd problem today and could use any pointers on tracking it down |
| [05:33:45] | <roycroft> | we have a drupal 7 site developed using the commerce_kickstart platform |
| [05:33:51] | <roycroft> | it is aegir managed |
| [05:34:00] | <roycroft> | the site normally verifies just fine |
| [05:34:09] | <roycroft> | but when i install the memcache module, it no longer verifies |
| [05:34:31] | <roycroft> | i get a drush fatal error "Cannot redeclare link_field_schema() ..." |
| [05:34:49] | <roycroft> | the memcache module does not reference that function at all |
| [05:35:06] | <roycroft> | i see that the link module is installed in two places |
| [05:36:12] | <roycroft> | 1. platform/profiles/commerce_kickstart/modules/contrib/link and platform/profiles/commerce_kickstart/modules/contrib/custom/link |
| [05:36:33] | <roycroft> | so maybe i need to get rid of one of those |
| [05:36:53] | <roycroft> | but why would the site verify fine without memcache and fail when i try to install memcache? |
| [05:52:14] | <Yaazkal> | hi roycroft: remove the last one |
| [05:52:40] | <Yaazkal> | I don't think is only with memcache, I guess you will get the same error if you try to install another module |
| [05:56:43] | <roycroft> | odd |
| [05:56:52] | <roycroft> | any idea why it verifies otherwise? |
| [05:57:07] | <roycroft> | i'm migrating this site to a new server, btw, so it's easy to experiment |
| [06:00:35] | <roycroft> | different failure this time, which is progress |
| [06:00:43] | <roycroft> | it's a memcache failure |
| [06:05:15] | <Yaazkal> | "the memcache module does not reference that function at all" note that the function is from the link module https://cgit.drupalcode.org/link/tree/link.install#n44 |
| [06:05:37] | <Yaazkal> | that's why you need to remove one of the modules |
| [06:06:51] | <roycroft> | right |
| [06:07:11] | <roycroft> | but it verified fine before i tried to install memcache |
| [06:07:24] | <roycroft> | with the two copies of the module |
| [06:07:30] | <roycroft> | that's the part that confuses me |
| [06:08:23] | <roycroft> | anyway, i just disable memcache, and will remove it and attempt to verify without memcache |
| [06:08:44] | <roycroft> | if that works i'll try installing memcache again |
| [06:09:25] | <Yaazkal> | not sure why because I'm not an aegir developer (so I don't know all the intern behaviour), but I'm almost sure that removing one of the modules (specially the last one that makes no sense) will help. |
| [06:09:27] | <roycroft> | should i be verifying the platform as well when i add/delete modules? |
| [06:09:35] | <Yaazkal> | yes |
| [06:09:50] | <Yaazkal> | add code to platform -> verify |
| [06:10:00] | <roycroft> | ok, that's what i thought |
| [06:10:02] | <Yaazkal> | remove code from platform -> verify |
| [06:10:06] | <roycroft> | and i did do that before i added memcache |
| [06:10:09] | <roycroft> | and it verified |
| [06:10:17] | <roycroft> | er, after i added memcache |
| [06:10:18] | <Yaazkal> | if you touch plkatforms, verify platforms |
| [06:10:21] | <roycroft> | the platform verified but the site did not |
| [06:10:53] | <Yaazkal> | no worry, try it |
| [06:11:11] | <Yaazkal> | do you selfhost the site? |
| [06:11:14] | <roycroft> | so both the platform and the site now verify |
| [06:11:15] | <roycroft> | yes |
| [06:11:22] | <roycroft> | without memcache |
| [06:11:27] | <roycroft> | and without the second copy of the link module |
| [06:11:37] | <roycroft> | now i guess i should try adding memcache again |
| [06:11:52] | <Yaazkal> | yes, add it to the platform, verify the platform |
| [06:12:34] | <Yaazkal> | if you selfhost I will recommend BOA: https://github.com/omega8cc/boa |
| [06:12:53] | <Yaazkal> | you will not need memcache, it has OPcache and also redis |
| [06:13:06] | <Yaazkal> | performance is what that breaths |
| [06:13:20] | <roycroft> | hmm |
| [06:13:50] | <roycroft> | we have a dozen or so servers all running debian jessie/stretch, apache2, mariadb |
| [06:14:14] | <roycroft> | it would be a rather onerous task to convert them all to a new platform |
| [06:14:18] | <roycroft> | but i'll certainly look into it |
| [06:14:34] | <Yaazkal> | just consider it, I guess it will save you a lot of time |
| [06:14:52] | <Yaazkal> | "Aegir on steroids" |
| [06:15:01] | <roycroft> | i'm not all opposed to changing platforms |
| [06:15:09] | <roycroft> | i'm pretty methodical about it though |
| [06:15:19] | <roycroft> | and i am opposed to running a large number of different platforms |
| [06:15:41] | <Yaazkal> | you don't need to |
| [06:15:48] | <roycroft> | since boa runs on debian that's helpful - the underlying os can remain the same |
| [06:16:24] | <roycroft> | ok, the platform verified with the memcache module |
| [06:16:37] | <Yaazkal> | yes, but I guess you will be better deploying a new server with BOA and them import platforms and transfer sites |
| [06:16:40] | <roycroft> | now to see if the site does as well |
| [06:16:45] | <roycroft> | yes |
| [06:16:47] | <roycroft> | and that's fine |
| [06:16:58] | <roycroft> | we already have a mechanism for doing that kind of stuff |
| [06:17:47] | <roycroft> | hosting_remote_import has been a tremendous help |
| [06:18:04] | <Yaazkal> | just try it, you will be pretty happy with the performance |
| [06:18:17] | <roycroft> | yes, i'll do so |
| [06:18:32] | <roycroft> | i have a sandbox platform that's available most of the time |
| [06:18:50] | <roycroft> | i have some pci compliance issues with the site that i'm working on right now |
| [06:19:11] | <roycroft> | and complaints of performance problems as well, which is why i was trying to install memcache as part of this work |
| [06:19:23] | <roycroft> | i need to continue work on the site as it stands |
| [06:19:28] | <roycroft> | but after that's done i can check out boa |
| [06:19:33] | <Yaazkal> | sure |
| [06:19:42] | <Yaazkal> | if need something just ping me |
| [06:19:48] | * roycroft notes that there are *always* pci compliance issues |
| [06:20:02] | <roycroft> | as in the minute we pass their test suite they test again and find something new |
| [06:20:13] | <roycroft> | thanks |
| [06:20:46] | <Yaazkal> | BOA = nginx + php-fpm + opcache + redis + csf + letsencrypt + dailybackups |
| [06:21:09] | <Yaazkal> | and many more, so I get you will get it more easy :) |
| [06:22:12] | <Yaazkal> | I guess* |
| [06:44:41] | <roycroft> | the site finally verified :) |
| [06:44:58] | <roycroft> | now to do all the updates that the developers have been ingoring for years |
| [06:45:23] | <roycroft> | it sucks that operations has to do the job of developers, but that's how it goes far too often |
| [06:52:25] | <Yaazkal> | :) |
| [06:59:42] | <Yaazkal> | roycroft: don't you use the magic of makefiles? |
| [07:12:50] | <Yaazkal> | I guess that according to what you mention before you are not using a safe workflow. I'll recommend to create a new platform with all the updates and then migrate the site to the new platform, that way aegir will backup your site, attempt a migration and if found any issue will reroll the site, that way you don't find an unexpected down site. |
| [07:14:51] | <Yaazkal> | tips: https://learn.omega8.cc/your-drupal-site-upgrade-safe-workflow-298 |
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