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| [07:59:44] | <josepholstad> | Hello? |
| [07:59:44] | <hefring> | hey |
| [08:00:21] | <josepholstad> | I haven't used IRC since at least 21 years, is hefring a bot? |
| [08:01:26] | <josepholstad> | Hello? |
| [08:01:26] | <hefring> | hey |
| [08:01:45] | <josepholstad> | anyone other than a bot able to confirm if this message is visible? |
| [08:03:35] | <josepholstad> | I noticed that wikipedia deleted the aegir page , can anyone see this message? |
| [08:04:05] | <josepholstad> | I haven't used IRC since at least 21 years, hefring appears to be a bot that says 'hey' when I say 'hello' |
| [08:19:47] | <helmo42[m]> | Hi josepholstad |
| [08:21:00] | <josepholstad> | Say I've got 200 websites to create using Drupal 9, I have postgresql for a database, I use drush 9.x and hope to use drush 10.x , all 200 sites are to run postgresql and possibly also Aegir. what are the pros and cons of using aegir in this particular case when I also have Open Shift and an existing container deployment setup? |
| [08:21:55] | <josepholstad> | Wondering, so do I run all 200 Drupal installs on a multisite setup managed by aegir ? or do I go with 200 containers running their own instance? |
| [08:22:16] | <josepholstad> | yes hello Helmo42 |
| [08:22:45] | <helmo42[m]> | It's a bit sad about wikipedia ... not enough media coverage :( |
| [08:23:06] | <josepholstad> | ya the wikipedia I will no longer donate money to them |
| [08:23:33] | <josepholstad> | total boycott on wikipedia, luckily the internet archive still has lots of copies of the page |
| [08:24:22] | <josepholstad> | I've used Aegir before but with Drupal 6 and Drupal 7, wondering if Aegir is a good option for 200 Drupal 9 installations using multisite. I'm wondering because my team is already set to go with 200 containers running seperately |
| [08:24:23] | <helmo42[m]> | 200 Aegirs in separate containers would not make sense to me, the power of aegir is more in managing multiple sites on one server and running tasks on those. |
| [08:25:01] | <josepholstad> | ya so Aegir does it run on the same host as the 200 multisites? |
| [08:25:21] | <josepholstad> | so I would have one container running Aegir with 200 multisites all on the same container? |
| [08:25:35] | <helmo42[m]> | yes ... or you can use slave servers to split the load |
| [08:26:05] | <josepholstad> | ok, so Aegir would have to have some ssh keys set up on the slave so that it can remotely run commands right? |
| [08:26:20] | <josepholstad> | kinda like jenkins I suppose? |
| [08:26:48] | <helmo42[m]> | I've not done much in the Drupal9 field yet .. but I think others are e.g. jonpugh |
| [08:27:08] | <josepholstad> | ok, so just trying to confirm, so ya 200 multisites on one container is probably doable, would just have to have a lot of threads assigned and lots of ram assigned to the pod (container host) |
| [08:27:12] | <helmo42[m]> | yes Aegir uses ssh to tun remote tasks |
| [08:27:31] | <helmo42[m]> | ans remote sql connections |
| [08:27:33] | <josepholstad> | ok, thanks for this info, so have you done much Drupal 8 on aegir? |
| [08:28:15] | <josepholstad> | Drupal 9 being almost the same as 8 pretty much, except for the php minimum requirements being rediculously high and mysql /mariadb versions being very new |
| [08:28:32] | <josepholstad> | but ya, I'm more talking postgresql my client wants everything postgresql |
| [08:28:36] | <helmo42[m]> | yes I have a number of them running, with various variants in composer workflow |
| [08:29:10] | <josepholstad> | ok good to know, so I saw drush 9 mentioned, not sure if this means drush 10 will be needed or not? |
| [08:29:31] | <josepholstad> | so aegir it'self is Drupal 7, Drupal 7 needs drush 8.x maximum, and the latest version at that for sure. |
| [08:29:34] | <helmo42[m]> | I'm not using postgres myself, so I'm not sure what the status of that is |
| [08:30:05] | <josepholstad> | ya, I'd prefer mariadb or mysql , especially in Drupal 7, but I have run postgresql on D7 before |
| [08:30:28] | <josepholstad> | I saw some issue commits for Postgresql support on aegir they were back in 2014 so it appears this was built in a long time ago |
| [08:30:41] | <josepholstad> | but definately not the normal path |
| [08:31:53] | <josepholstad> | Ok, I'm going to be building a prototype aegir setup for this, I saw the docker file the official docker file for aegir, I spun it up but it says file not found when I try to visit the assigned port with http |
| [08:31:55] | <helmo42[m]> | ACTION off |
| [08:32:00] | <josepholstad> | ok thanks |
| [08:32:26] | <josepholstad> | Thanks helmo42 , I'll spend some more time investigating this I appreciate your feedback |